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Q: Am I going to be doing this for all of the episodes?
A: Probably not. I probably won't have the time. But sometimes there are just SO MANY FEELINGS and I need to get them out, you guys



- Ruby/Belle brOTP is definitely happening :D :D :D :D can you see these smiley-faces? there are more of them, but the rest are so happy that you can't see them, because the internet would break

- HOW AWESOME WAS THIS EPISODE? I mean, I missed Emma and Regina and Aurora and Mulan and Snow and all that lot, but they have so much screen-time already. I sort of like that there's more of an ensemble-cast going on this episode - its not just everything through Emma's (or Snow or Charming's) POV, we're getting even more of the story.

- I lovelovelove what they did with the Hook-storyline. I can see how someone would find it annoying that Rumple is getting more and more roles - Rumplestiltskin, the Beast, a Fairy Godmother, the Crocodile - but I'm sort of loving it. It makes sense, yeah? He has such a horrible reputation and it has to come from somewhere - added to the fact that all of these characters were affected by the curse, that was (as far as we know) only created so that this man could find his son. I mean, everything hurts and its awful, but its so understandable, isn't it? Finally FINALLY I can actually put my precious villains on a line and go SEE, DO YOU SEE FANDOM? THEY ARE MESSED UP AND BROKEN AND JUST REGULAR PEOPLE MAKING STUPID DECISIONS AND NOT ALWAYS BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO FIX THEIR MISTAKES!! and its not just subtext, its there.

- One thing thats frustrating about us seeing the past along with the present (but frustrating in a good way), is that now we know Rumple is trying to be a better man (though he definitely still slips up a lot), so its difficult to dislike him for what he did in this episode. I will forever stand up for Milah: yes, she definitely made mistakes. She should - and could - have done a lot different. But her life was miserable. She clearly loved Bae, but it wasn't enough. And of course, with a kid you have a huge responsibility, you shouldn't just throw that away, but in a society were Milah probably had little to no choice but to get married and have kids, the circumstances become even more understandable. She got a chance to be happy, you know? She made crap, crap decisions, but she owns up to it. And if you think she deserves her fate, then I'm sorry, but we can't be friends. I understand Rumple being angry at her, being unable to forgive her for what she did to him and their son, but that doesn't excuse him killing her. My baby is misunderstood and miserable, but he is also a ruthless bastard.

- Coming back to Hook (marrymemarrymemarryme) I am so pleased we got to see a pirate, who was very much a pirate, but still a somewhat good man. From the acting around Milah's death I don't think he loved her as much as she loved him (though did she love him or just what he represented? I'm not going into meta about this or anything), but he definitely, definitely cared for her - he lied for her and was willing to die without tattling on her in some last attempt to escape with his life. I'm still sort of hitting my head on my desk in annoyance, because the promos were so misleading - Hook was clearly not this vile, evil creature 'worse than Rumplestiltskin' as they said, he was a charming thief who ended up becoming extremely dangerous, because 'the Crocodile' stole two very important things from him. And can we appreciate his look of 'ohgodgetmeoutofhere' when Cora walked up to him? This is so diabolical, because in another version of this story, when Hook comes to Storybrook to mess things up, he's the hero. He has damn good reason for wanting revenge on Rumple (as do a lot of people) and as ever, things are definitely not as straight-forward as they seem. Apparantly the only truly evil character is Cora, and I'm sure we'll be hit with some tragic backstory very soon, that makes us all go 'd'aaaaw' anyway.

- I want Smee's hat. Now.

- Can we talk about Moe? And how much I hate him right now? I was very annoyed in Skin Deep when Rumple believed Regina's story about him shutting his own daughter in a tower, having her basically abused and almost shunning her. I pushed it aside, because it is easy for people like Rumplestiltskin to believe that others can do such vile things. But after this episode? Fuck's sake, dude. This is definitely a man who would do that to his daughter because he thought she'd been 'defiled'. I've yelled about parents abusing their children on this show before, and honey, you just made the list. None of what he did was okay, none of it. I am horrified and appalled and so very happy that Belle all but gave the two most important men in her life the finger, and walked out. BRAVE BEAUTIFUL BELLE, who takes control of her own life. Can we appreciate that she's not storming away from Rumple in a hissy fit? She tries to work things out, but it can't work when she's the only one who's trying. And she needs some time to think, needs to get away - and realizes that she needs to find some purpose in her life, something that has nothing to do with Rumple or her dad. Guysguys, do you know what this is? This is a woman, almost exactly saying out loud, on an American television show, that she needs to find out who she is for herself, and not with any man. CAN WE GET AN AMEN???

- Josh Dallas' arms. Josh Dallas' arms!!! Sorry, that was... some nice shit going on there.

- The library-scenes gave me so many Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast' feelings. Rumple giving her the keys was perfect, and him finally being honest - honesty of the heart - was perfect as well. He still has such a long way to go - it can't just be fixed like that - but now Belle is aware of everything thats going on, she knows what motivates and drives him - his fear and his guilt and his longing - and that means that she can help him. Does her calling him back make her weak? No. She doesn't forgive him instantly. She doesn't run up to him with a kiss and a big smile. She decides - for herself - to give him another chance, because she loves him, and when you love someone, you take the good with the bad. You guys can keep your sword-wielding badasses and magic tricksters, Belle is the bravest person on this entire show (actually, I'd like to keep one or two of those badasses... like Snow and Emma and Hook and Josh Dallas' arms!!!)

- 'Sparkly dirt? Wonderful'
Okay, 1) it's clearly not Captain Hook, it's Captain Sassy, and 2) ... 'Is the jar of dirt going to help??' YOU ALL THOUGHT IT, DON'T PRETEND TO DENY IT!

- I just realized today that the guy who plays Jefferson is Bucky from Captain America and the guy who plays Charming (Josh Dallas' arms!!!!) is the guy who plays Fandral (the Asgardian swashbuckler with the moustache) from Thor. Also, Chris Hemsworth, who plays Thor, is Captain Kirk's dad in Star Trek XI. Guess who plays Captain Kirks' mom? Jennifer Morrison. Henry's dad is Thor you guys!!! I've solved the mystery! (and how many jokes have been made about this already? I think about a hundred. I am so behind, fandom, sorry!)

- I'm starting to really miss Regina. I want bonding-time people. Bonding-time!

- I think that was it. That about covered all of the things I flailed about this episode.

- oh

- except for one more thing

- 'What's the name of the place we're headed, Cap?'

- 'NEVERLAND!'


- yes, that is me you can hear shrieking with joy. guuuuuuuhhh





Date: 2012-10-22 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fogsblue.livejournal.com
YES MORE RUBY/BELLE!! Nothing wrong with me, but they're awesome :D

Really like the fact that not every episode is all about Emma, Snow and Charming, I mean I love them, but yay for showing us more of the brilliant characters!

Totally agree. Villians that have actual stories and depth and are people who make mistakes, often the wrong ones, but maybe they made it for what they thought was the right reason and... Yes, I like my bad guys to have real depth!

I don't think Hook was terrible, I liked the pirate but also not a terrible guy. Well, not yet. I seriously hope they show us some of his time in Neverland (And who's Peter Pan?).

Moe is terrible. Have you noticed that parents on this show seem to often make terrible decisions regarding their kids? Rumple, Cora, Regina, even Snow and Charming. Some were just much more selfish than others. But Moe, he's right up there with Cora I think, trying to make Belle forget. I do NOT like Moe.

The scene with Belle and Rumple in the library was perfect! For all the reasons you said. Belle, someone who has spent a lot of time with others telling her what to do and who to be finally gets to be her own person. I hope we get more Belle!

I never realised any of that so I'm slow too. But you know, this would explain a lot. Now... explain that family tree to Henry :D

HOOK AND PETER PAN DAMNIT!

Date: 2012-10-23 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
They really were. I love these glimpses we get of what a loyal, amazing friend Ruby can be. Considering everything she's gone through, and yet she's such a fixture for all of them: she remains firm when all the others - even Charming - panic and lose their way. I hope we get another Ruby-centric episode soon, because honestly, she didn't just lose her True Love, she actually killed and ate him. That is even more messed up than some of the stuff that's happened to our dear villains. Can we get an episode of worship for this gal??

I want some Neverland-background! I want Peter Pan - and I want him to be an annoying little brat. And not just because I love Hook so much, but also because he really was in the original play. And I love that Hook isn't really a typical villain - of course, he's a pirate and he was a total ass to Rumplestiltskin, but we don't see him become corrupted by magic or actively hurt someone (semi-)innocent just because he can. I think we can definitely say that him seeking revenge on Rumple is very most understandable (even if it isn't the right way of course)And I want Tinkerbell!!! Give us some Tinkerbell people!

Parenting is hard, and living in a Fairytale-land really doesn't seem to make it any easier. I think the best parents we've seen on the show was actually Snow/Charming, Gepetto and Rumplestiltskin. The first ones shipped off their daughter to Maine - for her own good, the second one sort of ruined Emma's life in trying to save his sons - for his own good, and the last one would do anything to save his son, anything - including becoming a monster. On one hand, this is amazing devotion, and such fierce love, but it all led to really horrible and terrible things happening. The only one who has actually been semi-succesfull is sort of Regina? Because while she messed up a few times, and there was the whole evil-thing, she's still raised a pretty amazing kid, y'know? And this in spite of her own mother being... well, Cora. It really fits with the old-time fairytales, because talk about being a bad parent in some of those stories!

It would be glorious! :D He's CAPTAIN KIRK. He gets to have adventures when he grows up, in Fairytale land AND in space! ... lol.

HOOK AND PETER PAN RIGHT NOAAW!!

Date: 2012-10-23 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fogsblue.livejournal.com
I hope we get another Ruby-centric episode soon

YES YES!! PLease let them make another one of these soon! There's so much we could learn about her. Not the least as you say, the after effects of realising she ate her true love. I mean she always seems so in control and calm but I think there's more to her. WANT MORE RUBY! (I'm calm, I swear).

Peter Pan as a brat would be brilliant. I mean it would work well with this Hook for Peter Pan to not be the hero. Actually, given the way a lot of the sotries go, I would think that if they bring in Peter Pan, he's likely to be a bit of a brat. Maybe have some good qualities but he'll have some bad as well. And yes, we have the other fairies, Tinkerbell better be in there too!!

Exactly! Some of the parents have made huge decisions that was bad, but they were for the right reason. Snow/Charming, Gepetto and Rumple. Even Emma. She chose to give Henry up, because she thought it was the right thing to do for him. Rumple was willing to do anything to save Bae, but he made the wrong choice. In some ways, I think he recognises that but he can't really admit it (that makes sense in my head, ok). Regina has made some bad decisions in regards to Henry. Some of them for all the worst reasons, but so many because she didn't know how else to show that she loved him. Then you get someone like Moe, making the wrond decision, for the wrong reasons. Yep, I think a lot of the fairytale parents could do with some parenting advice.

HOOK AND PETER PAN RIGHT NOAAW!!

Is it bad that I can't decide which I want more, Hook and Peter Pan or more Ruby???

Date: 2012-10-24 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
The chick was calm when even Archie was freaking out - remember how he wanted to leave the city as well? And she was all 'lol no, listen to yourself people'. She's so zen it's almost eerie!

Exactly! I mean, look at our Charming. He messed up BIG TIME, but he learned from it, and that's how we want our characters, isn't it?

And Jefferson too! It's almost always a matter of the adults thinking they know better, because they're adults, and not listening to their kids. Bae wanting to get away from the magic, Grace telling Jefferson she just wants to keep her dad, Regina telling her mother that she doesn't want to be like her, Belle telling Moe that 'hey, you sort of can't do that, it's really shitty goodbye thnx'. And in all of the instances, the adults haven't listened and its gone bad for them: they've either lost their beloved children or said child has pushed them through a magical mirror to godknowswhere. Silly parents...

Is it bad that I can't decide which I want more, Hook and Peter Pan or more Ruby???
WHA... YOU WHA... WHY??? WHY WOULD YOU PUT THIS CHOICE IN FRONT OF ME LIKE THAT'S OKAY? HOW COULD I POSSIBLY PICK? GOD I AM GLAD THAT THE SHOWRUNNERS DECIDE THIS BECAUSE IF I ACTUALLY HAD TO MAKE THAT DECISION I THINK MY BODY WOULD JUST REBEL AND EXPLODE OR SOMETHING, CHRISTHTELORD (I'm calm as well, I reallyreally am. Channeling the RubyZen!)
Edited Date: 2012-10-24 06:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-24 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fogsblue.livejournal.com
RUBYZEN!! That is the best expression! But she is, she never seems to lose her cool and seriously she's earnt the right to lose it at least once!

It's possible a lot of these problems could be averted if they'd listen to their kids. We al know parents aren't great at that, but these guys have the joy of GIANT consequences that tend to bite them in the butt and leave them with no child. But some seem to be learning a little bit.

I KNOW, I KNOW! IF WE HAD TO WAIT FOR ME TO DECIDE WE'D NEVER SEE ANYTHING NEW!

RubyZen!!

Date: 2012-10-25 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
Haha, its the new 'wooozah' for us who needs to become calm again :D she has definitely earned the right to freak out a lot! But she doesn't and that is very awesome.

That's another thing I love about this show: there are very much a matter of; actions = consequences. For both the heroes and the villains. It's why someone like Belle, for example, keeps making at least halfway good choices, because she's brave enough to be honest and upfront and to take chances instead of lying, manipulating, chickening out etc.

OHGOD WHAT IF WE GET NEITHER? WHAT IF RUBY CONTINUES TO BE AWESOME BUT THERE WON'T BE MORE BACKGROUND FOR HER?? WHAT IF PETER PAN IS JUST LEFT OUT (!!!!!!!!!)

(rubyzenrubyzenrubyzen...)

Date: 2012-10-25 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fogsblue.livejournal.com
YES!! THey make their choices and they face consequences, good and bad choices and good and bad consequences and it's wonderful!!

DO NOT THINK LIKE THAT! WE WILL GET BOTH! I REFUSE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY! WE WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL *Covers ears and continues chanting*

Date: 2012-10-26 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
YES. YES WE WIL GET BOTH. WE WILL. I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRIES, I DO I DO! *starts chanting with you*


Rubyzen!!!!

Date: 2012-10-22 08:08 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Once} ++ Gold)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
BUT RUMPLE IS SO AWESOME HE DESERVES ALL THE ROLES! I love that he's the crocodile, lol. If you knew how much I loved the crocodile from Peter Pan when I was a little girl... I can't stop flailing because this episode has given me everything I wanted and everything I didn't know I wanted. New fandom, new feelings, and they feel good :D

My baby is misunderstood and miserable, but he is also a ruthless bastard.
This. I mean, this. I have so many Gold feelings, you have no idea. (No wait, you probably do) But I also agree re Milah, as I'll always defend the 'being a mother isn't all there is to being a woman' line.

I love Belle, she's been perfect so far. I love this show's female characters so much. Moffat needs to watch OUaT.

I missed Snow and Emma, but it was so good to see the other characters interacting, Ruby and Belle, Gold and David... I loved when David went all 'Did you remember turning that man into a pig'? I missed Regina too. She kinda broke my heart in 2.3 when she was so excited about having lunch with Henry, I felt for her.

And sorry about the long comment, this show makes me happyyyyy!

Date: 2012-10-23 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
HE DOES HE REALLY DOES! IN MY HEAD HE IS ALSO URSULA FROM THE LITTLE MERMAID AND THAT VOODO-GUY FROM THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE! And I'm starting to think we really were seperated at birth, because that crocodile was practically my spirit animal when I was little. I used to actually make noises like a clock to the great annoyance of my parents! This episode was so amazing! :D

as I'll always defend the 'being a mother isn't all there is to being a woman' line.
Exactly! That doesn't mean she didn't have responsibilities - in an ideal world, her and Rumple would have come to some sort of understanding, and she would have stayed and everyone would have been just a little less miserable, if not quite happy. But the fandom has been throwing so much hate at her, and I really can't stand it: they can forgive Rumplestiltskin and Regina for murdering and manipulating and torturing, but they can't forgive one despairing woman trying to seek her own happiness? Added to the fact that having a miserable and somewhat resentful parent around isn't always much better than lacking a parent. Milah was miserable, and either way, it was going to hurt Baelfire.

Moffat needs to sit in a room with the writers of this show and have some STERN TALKING TO (they can dress up as fairytale villains and threaten him JUST A LITTLE BIT) and some slideshows, maybe, and a few episodes of Buffy and Xena and maybe Game of Thrones along with this show, and then maybe Oswin will be as great as she has the potential to be!

I love long comments! This show is making me so insanely happy as well :D its like therapy after ADWD ripped my heart out and DW's S7 had as many downs as it had ups.

Date: 2012-10-23 03:40 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Once} ++ Apple)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
ARE YOU EVEN REAL NANA BECAUSE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE...ME! I'm having Disney feelings, it's silly. Though I think it all means that if I ever re-watch Beauty and the Beast, Peter Pan, or even Cinderella and Snow White I'll be thinking of Carlyle (and incidentally of Josh Dallas). Did I mention I'm happy they gave Charming a cool backstory as well? And that he's now acting Sheriff? And that he's funny and all that?

Yeah, the only moment that bothered me is when she 'interrupts' the duel and after that, she doesn't ask Rumple about Bae until Rumple brings the subject up, and from the pub scenes I'd gathered she loved her son, so that was meh. But I get her, maybe she didn't want children in the first place, and Rumple didn't make her happy anyway and wouldn't try and reach an understanding himself. So yeah, it's not like she's going to be my favourite, but no hate for that woman.

they can dress up as fairytale villains and threaten him JUST A LITTLE BIT
Haha, I'm so going to picture that now. I fear for Oswin, and I have a feeling that the brilliance of OUaT characterization so far is going to ruin Moffat!Who even more as far as I'm concerned.

I haven't gone as far as ADWD yet, I don't have the time to read such a big book atm, but I was disappointed by Angels in Manhattan, and Downton Abbey is seriously letting me down, so OUaT is my breath of fresh television air :)

Date: 2012-10-23 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
LOL WHAT IF YOU REALLY HAVE PERSONALITY DISORDER AND YOU'VE CREATED THIS WHOLE OTHER PERSONA FROM DENMARK (OF ALL PLACES???) TO WRITE WITH YOU AND FANGIRL WITH. I'm suddenly having an identity crisis here...

My little sister haven't watched a lot of the classics, and I've partially convinced her to sit down one weekend and watch some of them with me... I'll be going 'but don't worry, that guy's just in Storybrooke now' and 'lol, that didn't even happen, RUMPLE WAS THE CROCODILE, get your facts straight disney'. I don't know what this show has done to me!

I am so happy about the way they've done Charming: he's even a bit of an asshat in some of S1 (as David Nolan), but he makes up for his mistakes and gets to be a bamf. Sometimes I wonder if the show-writers decided that they had to get Emma and Snow somewhere else, so that Charming could get his chance to shine? :D

That bothered me a lot as well, though I wonder if she knows what has happened? Smee has clearly heard a correct rumor - eerily correct, in fact. Not that I'm excusing her, and I am very 'happy' that this was a deciding factor in Rumplestiltskin's anger towards her: he feels so much guilt about abandoning Bae himself, it must be a lovely relief to be able to point that anger at someone else for a change (not that I'm excusing him killing her AT ALL, I'm just saying, I sort of get it?)

Prrrssssh, did you know that Jenna-Louise Coleman is dating Richard Madden, Game of Thrones very own Robb Stark???? Not really relevant, but I just found out and imagined the babies they could have together, and I'm not sure the world can handle that much pretty in one go.
I'm afraid the second half of S7 is going to lose a lot of points in my fun little spam :/

Well, ADWD ripped my heart out like all of GRRM's book in that series have done. I'm just disturbed that now I have to WAIT for the next book. I still haven't watched the new season of DA :/ is it very bad???

Date: 2012-10-23 04:28 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Once} ++ Gold)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Or maybe you have and I'm a projection trapped inside your mind? Forever doubting now O.o (Lol, where did this conversation even came from?)

Aww, you need to make her watch them :) This show is a life-ruiner, I tell you. I kinda really want to re-watch Peter Pan now.

I like to think it was planned, it's good to have David and Mary Margaret not interact with each other, and it makes for other great interactions. I've been loving Charming in S2 :)

and I am very 'happy' that this was a deciding factor in Rumplestiltskin's anger towards her
Me too, otherwise I'd have to condemn him completely, and that wouldn't do. Not that I'm defending him either.

Wuuuut, they're going to make the world implode with all of their hotness put together!!

That's part of the reason I've stopped reading the books, I don't want to have to wait for the next one, watching the tv series will do for now :) Re DA, I have this feeling of so much missed opportunities and bad writing decisions this year, but I don't want to ruin it for you, you'll have to see for yourself :)

Date: 2012-10-23 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
I don't want to press the issue, but now we HAVE to meet at some point, just to confirm that we're both real! (I don't even know!)

Me too! Speaking of rewatch, we haven't gotten around to BH 1x02 yet! We need to remedy that!

I am really looking forward to seeing them apart, because it seems like we'll get to see them both be leaders in these odd situations that they didn't expect to be thrown into. Also focus on the mother/daughter relationship, so that they can work that out and then Emma and Charming can be badass together when they get back!

Rumple-baby still has such a long way to go, but at least in some areas he's learning. This is why I pray, I PRAY that Bae has turned out a good man/if he's not still a kid, but still good, because if he has turned horrible because of Rumple's actions, then I simply can't see redemption happening. I think the guilt about that would kill Rumplestiltskin completely, and it would only be the Dark One left :/

Exactly! And apparantly Richard is a HUGE Doctor Who fan. Perfect. Human. Being!

I'll tentatively step into the abyss :( but probably not before December, I think.

Date: 2012-10-23 05:52 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: (Default)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Haha, then a meet-up in London (or anywhere) must happen someday :D

That's right! And I could've this week, since I'm ill...again. Tell me when you want to re-watch, I'm on holiday this Friday anyway :)

I'm looking forward to Snow's leadership! And Charming in on the right track as well.

I hope Rumple will find him, I think it's the only reason he's still hanging on. Though he sort of has Belle now, but if he can't find Bae or bad things have happened to him, it will destroy him :/

Okay, so now I love him even more :) Ah, there are some good moments, I don't want to put you off completely! I have such a big to-watch list, it's scary. I'll be watching Homeland and Parade's Day during the holidays, plus a ton of other period drama stuff.

Date: 2012-10-24 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
:D

How about this Friday then? I'm free in the late afternoon/evening. And feel better soon! It sucks being ill on your holidays :/

Also next episode I'm almost 100% certain that we find out who Dr. Whale is! (aside from some guy who wants to bang the nuns/fairies ;D) It's been bugging me for a while now, because SO MANY THEORIES.

I sort of love Belle's role in Rumple's life, because if it hadn't been for her, things might have been even worse, y'know? Like how someone on tumblr, I think it was, mentioned that he throws Belle in the dungeon before going all 'aaaaargh' on his furniture. I think he was very much afraid that he would hurt her, like he hurt Milah way back when. And the fact that he was so ready to let Belle go in 2x4 shows so much character-growth - I think with her help, he can become a better man, and someone who 'deserves' to be the father of Bae: someone he'll actually want to forgive, because not only is there all the magic abuce, trickery, murdering and lying for 300+ years, there is also the very close betrayals like breaking their deal and killing his mother(!!!!). And if Rumple hasn't shown himself to at least actively try to change, then I can't see how Bae can forgive him for all of that. Also, on one hand, creating the whole curse just to find Bae is a very wonderful and amazingly devoted thing to do, but it also affected thousands of peoples lives negatively and if Bae is any sort of a good person still, I think that's going to be on his conscience, that his dad did that for him (at least we now know that Rumple tried different means as well, what with wanting the bean) (sorry for the rant. I have a lot of Baelfeels at the moment)

I've set myself to watching Lost at some point, because everyone's been praising it and I'm really loving the narrative of OUAT, with season-long cons and slow reveals and plots that give you something and then five episodes later hits you in the face and go 'HA YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON, YOU REALLY DIDN'T SUCKER'. And I still need to finish Firefly and Supernatural and I want to watch Parade's Day as well!

Date: 2012-10-24 03:59 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: (Default)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Hmm, Friday evening then, because if I can I'll go to school and I won't be home before 6. Though I was just starting to feel better and now I feel very low again, so I don't know if I'll be able to go, I'll let you know. Can't tell you how tired of it I am :/

I want to know who he is too, I already spent all of S1 wondering!

Yes to all of this. He needs redemption. I absolutely love that he created the curse to be able to find Bae and that all along he wanted the curse to be broken and made sure it would be. I wonder what else he's been planning that we don't know about yet. (No problem, I'm having all the everyone feelings atm)

Maybe I should finally, finally watch Lost, lol. I've been meaning to for years, but I heard some fans had been put off my all the mind-fuck, so idk. I'm still curious though :) And I need to watch Spn as well, all the gifsets on Tumblr make me want to! I hadn't found the first ep very good, but then again OUaT grew on me after six or so eps and now I'm obsessed, so I'll give Spn another try :)
Honestly, I think the way the story-arcs in OUaT are handled so far is impressive. (I just hope they won't start killing off my favourite characters, that's all.)

Date: 2012-10-24 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
Perfect! :) hope you get better, yeah? Don't push yourself too hard, but sometimes it also helps to get out and get something done (or so I find, though not of you're feeling too poorly) and I so get you with the being tired. I've just stopped feeling queasy after five days. (btw, I found out that the English Course I want to take doesn't even need you having taken Math at the level I'm currently doing. I just need to have passed stuff like English A-level, Danish A and History A, which are things I definitely won't fail and the rest of the grades doesn't even matter. I was so relieved that I actually started crying - even if I fail Math I can still get in)

I am so excited for the next episode, because dammit Whale!!

God, that scene in 'We Are Both' when he just smashes all those things in the shop after finding out the curse isn't entirely broken - added to the fact that the only person who might be able to leave Storybrooke (Emma) is now gone because of the Wraith that HE let loose... oooh, who am I kidding, I was trying to stay somewhat mad at him after killing Milah, but I can't do that right now! (joins you in the everyone feelings)

spn definitely has its ups and downs, and thus far season 6 is really weird, but it's blown me away so many times that I sort of just want to cling to the dvd-cases and cry for a little while. I'm glad you're giving it another shot :)
I was absolutely sure I was never going to watch Lost because I thought it sounded kinda lame, but everyone kept recommending it, so... also, I'm hoping the mind-fuckery will be better when I don't have to wait between episodes and even longer between seasons ;)

(I just hope they won't start killing off my favourite characters, that's all.)
I feel like Graham was sort of their Ned Stark - 'hey, this dude is really awesome and look he's a love interest and he can be very important to the plot, because GASP he remembers now... oh, dead.' And then they creeped me out even more by going the rest of the season without killing another really major character, so now I'm anxiously awaiting the next Graham! Also having occasional Red Wedding flashbacks, but I keep reminding myself that it's supposed to be a family show so surely they won't go that far... :( :(


Date: 2012-10-26 12:15 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Once} ++ Gold)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
When do you want to watch? 6 pm? Well, I was feeling better but then I got unexpected complications, I'm seeing the doctor again tonight. (Yay, that's great, at least it takes the pressure off for you :D)

I can't hate him. I just don't know how to feel, he's such an interesting character that I'm fascinated, I think. I think I like fascinating characters more than the ones I can easily relate to, that's weird :)

I'll try to find streaming links. I'm a bit excited because Amanda Tapping is going to be in it for 2 eps apparently, but of course I still have to watch the whole show first.
I started watching Homeland and I think it's going to be brilliant! My holidays will be made of Homeland and Parade's End, me thinks :)

I haven't gotten as far as the Red Wedding, but I read a few spoilers. I hope they won't go that far either, I'm starting to love every character so I don't want any of them to get killed off :/

Date: 2012-10-26 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
is 6.30 pm alright? I need to cook dinner first :) I'm so sorry to hear that! Hope everything's alright and it won't affect your school-work too much?

I think I like fascinating characters more than the ones I can easily relate to, that's weird :)
I don't think it's weird at all - I think maybe it is actually easier to relate to fascinating characters, because they're also mostly the most layered ones: exactly like real people. And other than that, it is more fun to have characters you can care about enough to get mad at, when they make the wrong choices. And dear god, do my favorite characters make wrong choices...

You haven't gotten to the Red Wedding yet! Oooh dear. I was half-way spoiled as well, but reading it was just completely different, no matter what. It's the worst :(

Date: 2012-10-26 04:03 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: (Default)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
I can't because my doctor's appointment is at 7.30, but we can watch later tonight? I'll probably be up late anyway :)
Thank you! I think I should be able to get back on my feet re school-work soon enough, I'm mostly having these big vertigo moments and I don't why causes that, and that's what bothers me the most :/

And dear god, do my favorite characters make wrong choices...
They always do, don't they? :)



Date: 2012-10-26 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
Well, I'm free after that as well, so whenever you get back :) I hope your doctor can figure out what's causing the big vertigo moments - maybe it's all the school-work? It must have been a big change for you, coming back again.

Date: 2012-10-26 04:15 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: (Default)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Okay, cool :) Yeah me too. I don't know, I handling it all pretty well, and then my tension dropped and I wasn't okay. But it happens every year, it's just that this year it's more problematic.

Date: 2012-10-26 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
*big hugs* maybe it's just a momentary lapse? Either way, I hope you get better soon. btw, just hit messenger when you're ready for the rewatch (:

Date: 2012-10-26 10:15 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Human} ++ Through the storm)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
*hugs back* I don't know, I haven't gotten any better according to the doctor :/ I'm sorry I missed the re-watch, I got home late and then had a bit of an emotional crisis, silly me. Let me know if you want to re-watch tomorrow :)

Date: 2012-10-27 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
*hugs* No worries, I fell asleep as well. I'm busy today, but maybe Sunday afternoon/evening? Whenever you feel up to it :) is your holiday now?

Date: 2012-10-27 10:45 am (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Human} ++ When I look at the world)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm on holiday, thank God! Sunday afternoon would be great, or whenever you can, really :)

Date: 2012-10-28 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
Can we do it around 15.30 do you think? :)

Date: 2012-10-28 03:15 pm (UTC)
ext_830484: ({Merlin} ++ Not so young anymore)
From: [identity profile] the-silverdoe.livejournal.com
Sorry, I missed that, I was watching Merlin with the family :) I'm logging in now, so any time is fine!

Date: 2012-10-24 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginevra17.livejournal.com
I agree with everything! Aside for the fact that Robert Carlyle is the greatest actor because he manages to play 3 different characters in one show and ashkasjhkjnfdks.
I usually get kind of bored during Rumple's episodes xD I mean, I like him enough but he's not my favourite. But I loved this episode so much! It showed a lot of the character, things that maybe we could already knew form the previous season, but in this episode it was THERE and we SAW it.
Also, how genius was the crocodile thing? No seriously, GENIUS. And OMG HOOK MARRY ME NOW.

Date: 2012-10-24 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keep-counting.livejournal.com
Robert Carlyle is AMAZING. I don't even think 3 different characters is enough - with the jump in the Rumple-timelines we get so many different versions of the Dark One. The one he is when he's imprisoned, the one before Bae went missing, the one when he's trying to get Regina to join the dark side, the one when he's with Belle... Carlyle is simply amazing.

It was SO GREAT actually seeing what had happened with Milah and everything. MORE LAYERS FOR DEAR RUMPLE!

I adored the crocodile-thing, and this coming from someone whose favorite character in the whole Peter Pan-franchise is that damn crocodile (well, in the disney-movie anyway). Anyone complaining about it can just go home!

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