keep_counting | Mental world / Sherlock

WTF is going on with the United States?!

I've already heard the ball theory, but presenting it with The Mentalist? Teehee!

I know. I am so disgusted right now I can't concentrate on my class at all.

We need crossover fic. Jane meeting Sherlock? Both incredibly observant, brilliant people, but so different in nature and personality! IT HAS TO HAPPEN! Are we adding this to the crack-list?

Hahaha, you're surfing LJ in school?

Yes, crossover fic! I wonder how these two would get along. ...I also wonder how almost typed 'would' as 'wood' *facepalm*. Okay, Sherlock/Mentalist crossover is on my bunny list.

YES SORRY I'M A BAD PERSON xD lol, only in-between classes and sometimes when it's really boring. I found the petition when researching international politics though, so it was actually for a class this time! ;)

I think Patrick would drive Sherlock up the wall with being so observant yet so human. Sherlock would detest him and John would love every single minute of it!

SPEAKING OF CROSSOVERS! http://www.dorktower.com/2012/01/24/dork-tower-tuesday-january-24-2012/ XD

THAT IS AMAZING!!!!

Is this... for real? I mean 'don't say gay', 'license to bully'... what the hell? Eek!

I don't waaaant that theory to be true because then it would mean I'd have been spoiled and Do Not Want! *pouts and looks away in a Sherlock-like fashion*

It is. I am so disguted I actually lost my appetite. I mean, what the hell is this? 'If you have a religion or a moral ground that goes against homosexuality, you have the right to call them names' is basically what it says. That is the most wrong sentence I have ever heard. It is no different than: 'there were originally no black people in this country, so we can hate on them'. It's just... I mean, this is 2012 for the love of god. Seriously considering going from bi to lesbian just to piss more people off.

Aw, sorry! Stay away from my theory-posts if you don't want to be spoiled! xD

Just... 'What the fuck' is all I can say... Dammit how can this be happening, how can people even think about it? I thought progress on the subject had been made. I don't even want to imagine something like that happening here and my gay friends being victims of that... just NO!

Seriously considering going from bi to lesbian just to piss more people off.
Lol. I don't know if I'm straight or bi, but I can't help thinking of all the gay people in my life, and they're human ffs! How can people think like this?

Don't worry, you didn't spoil me, I saw it on Tumblr first. ;)

(Also, don't lose your appetite. These morons are not worth it.)

Yep, it's no longer against the rules for homosexuals to marry, yet there's still so much crap. It is just not okay.

A human is a human, done, finito, that's it. No matter skin colour, background, sexuality or the way you fucking do your hair, you are a human being first. Bullying is never okay, but doing it on something like this... I mean, haven't we learned anything from past mistakes? People always get mad at me when I pull the Nazi-card, but I see no different from hating homosexuals, to believing that some people are better than others because their hair, skin and eyecolour are light. It's called evolution people, you're doing it wrong.

Good :)

(Got my appetite back, just in time :) had to go to dinner with the family, and have now eaten so much I think I might be sick. xD)

Sometimes it annoys me when people pull out the Nazi card, because it feels like you can't say anything that's not politically correct anymore. And I think it's even more discriminatory when people forbid you to say some black people or gay people or whatever can be morons or bad people. Because they can. Just like us. And it's okay. Let's just look at each other and see people, with minds, souls, qualities and flaws. That's all I want, for me and for everybody else. Is this too much to ask from society?
But I see what you mean, and besides, homosexuals were persecuted by the Nazis, and some things that are happening atm are alarming.

I almost yelled at a friend once because we were out and he was a bit drunk and started saying he didn't like 'puffs' or whatever, and I had to tell him to stop saying these things, because it's plain wrong.

Sorry, I'm getting emotional. I've always over-reacted on that issue, because my parents have lots of gay friends, and I grew up having them around, and my godfather is gay and there are just no words to say how much I love him, and then I had gay friends of my own and I can't stand the idea that they can be looked at as if they were anything else than normal.

Good. I mean, don't get sick, but don't starve either. ;)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's alright for people to pull the 'racist/homophobic/Nazi' card at any time, and I don't either: but, especially in Denmark, making snide comments like 'they need to get out of the country' or 'I don't want to look at them kissing/holding hands' are considered normal: I get odd looks for telling people that I don't want to hear them talking like that. And especially after what happened with Breivik in Norway - that could as easily have happened here: he was a member of the sister-party of one of our most racist-parties, and people believe it's alright to think like that: pulling the Nazi-card is something people can relate to, because we all agree that what they did was wrong, yet people over here think nothing harmful of making very racist comments: all it takes is someone with ambition to stir up a crowd, and we'll have several black and homosexuals getting attacked on the street: or someone placing a bomb and running around shooting young people.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just very passionate about it at the moment: Breivik is still so fresh in my mind, because it was so close to my home, in a society that mirrors the one I live in so much. It's a question of choice I think, because I don't want to get married, but if I ever fall in love with a girl, I want to have the opportunity to, yeah?

I'm so happy you got mad at your friend! A lot of the time I get told I'm too strict, because my friends always say: 'I don't mean it like that', but other people - younger people who mirror you - might not know that, and it becomes so destructive. Not everyone sees the hidden meaning and they come to think that it's alright to talk and think like that, even if the speaker didn't quite mean it.

Why do you insist on living in France so I can't hug you???

Don't apologise about the rant; I think we pretty much agree on this.

Aww *hugs you*

Yes! I jumped up from the couch and ran to my computer and typed that theory up in the middle of the episode. Haha!

In fact, I consider it to be the sure explanation. Not a theory. (Yes, I am that arrogant. :-P)

To me the most awesome part is that Jane IS the American version of Sherlock Holmes, and that the episode airing 4 days after TRF should have the explanation is the best coincidence of all time. :-P

You are a genius ;) It would certainly explain the ball wouldn't it? It's such a small and insignificant detail, and it is very like Moffat to make something like that so important.

Lol, the american-version of Sherlock with a slightly more humane side! Of course, when I say 'slightly' I mean something more akin to 'hugely'. But yes, he is :)

:-P Well the thing was, remember Moffat said on Thursday that the clue to Sherlock's death was in an OOC behavior and no one picked up on it. So I said right away, well, it's the Steve McQueen moment. (That bothered me from my first viewing... and after he said it it also occurred to me that they focus on the ball when Sherlock sees John's hand tapping, to throw you off -- like you think it's about the tapping, but it's really about the ball.) Anyway, I was convinced it had to do with the rubber ball, especially as that looked like a magic trick tool. (And Sherlock says "it's just a magic trick" to John on the phone.) Then when a few hours later Jane explained what one can do with a ball... and it explains why John doesn't feel a pulse... Like I said, there is no question in my mind that is what happened. I haven't bothered to read any other theories, unless they were right there, un-lj-cut on my flist. Partly because I don't care, and partly because I'm satisfied until next season. :-) Also, this may be the only time I've ever figured something like that out, so I'm really excited.

Re: Jane... I'm not sure that he's much more humane. He's more likely to turn on the charm than Sherlock is, but they're both ultimately manipulating almost 24/7. And Jane can be just as abrasive. I think he subscribes to the you catch more flies with honey theory. But yeah... they're both so in touch with human emotion on the I CAN USE THIS side of things, but often so out of touch otherwise. And both have hidden depths of emotion, but they try to mask them as much as possible. Yeah, Jane is coming around more... but then we're in the fourth season of The Mentalist and only the second of Sherlock.

It is an awesome theory, and very well-spotted. There is one other that I think is very likely as well (I've posted about it yesterday I think), but it's 50/50 for me on the two, and with the Mentalist-thing right after... my little fangirl-heart would be forever happy :)

Hmm, I guess I meant more in that a lot of Jane's motivation is the death of his family. Jane has loved, deeply, and still cares, I think, whereas Sherlock was sociopathic for many years. In the first season, he didn't percieve Lestrade or Mrs Hudson or maybe even John as a 'real friend', but in Reichenbach he clearly does. So I would say that Jane is more 'normal' in terms of sentiment and human relations and at least learned about that long before the start of the series, through his wife and daugther. The Mentalist is in a way about Jane finding the man who 'killed' his humanity (Red John) while Sherlock is about our main character finding that humanity to begin with. I don't really see Jane as out-of-touch in the 'don't understand' way, more in the 'I don't want this' way, while Sherlock seems much more baffled about some human emotions. But as you said, Sherlock has a long way to go yet ;)

Did you read the bill? It bans students from harming each other, causing each other fear, or creating a hostile educational environment for each other.

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

I am not sure we are talking about the same bill? I've just had a lecture about it this afternoon, so it was not merely something I found on the internet: we were given the link and studied the case.

Anyway, I didn't put it up here to start a discussion, merely so people could be aware of something I thought was wrong and that we are working on in one of our classes at the moment.

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