Reichenbach-survival (spoilers)

[keep_counting]

Plausible theory?

I liked the Ritchie reference ;) plus, if you rewatch, you can actually see several people holding other people away from the body: yes, some bystanders might do this automatically, but wouldn't more people just be standing and watching in shock? I'm pretty sure there's also someone doing it before the ambulance and medical people arrive 

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[fueschgast]

You linked to your comment. I wish people would check their link before posting it. No, sorry, that sounds too grumpy. Don't think I'm mad at you.
I disagree with tiny bits of the theory, but over all it, yeah. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised someone posted their theory (but it's entertainingly done, heh), because it seems to me that we've all come up with only slighty varying theories - basically we all agree. We have figured out what there is to figure out. Except for the bits we can neither see nor deduce, of course. ARGH, a year of waiting! No way we'll survive that just by theorizing about the Reichenbach ending.

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

I fixed it already, before your comment :)

Actually, I've heard a lot of different and varying theories, including that it was actually Moriarty jumping off the roof: the only thing they have in common is the end-result ie. Sherlock is alive. Yeah, a lot of them are the same or similar, but that's the fun of it: there are a lot of things that could have happened, some more plausible than others, but it keeps us going until we know for sure

[fueschgast]

Yeah, I heard that theory too, but I can't believe it, not even for a split second. Actually, I have heard a lot of theories, I guess I just forgot about the ones that don't make sense and since they're all part of the same question, I seem to have overlooked how different these theories can be. My brain is a confusing place.

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

No, there are so many things wrong with it, it's hilarious. There are some that are more plausible than others, but we'll just have to wait and see what it comes to. It's comforting that they've already filmed it (or parts of it), so we know that it's thought-through and most likely well-executed ;)

[fueschgast]

I guess some people could only watch it once, so coming up with theories that make sense is a bit hard. Yes, Mofftiss already know what happened, I'm so glad about that! I'd hate it if we came up with theories from all these clues and then nothing it mattered.
Ah, I can't wait to watch my DVDs. I wanted to post some more thoughts on The Reichenbach Fall and also add my thoughts on the theories. Funtimes ahead! :oD

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

Yeah, my vision is too blurry to really see much when I watch it xD Luckily some other people are more observant.

I will just sit here fuming in jealousy. You should do a theory!post, it would be lots of fun :D

[fueschgast]

I'm so sorry, I just kept going on about my DVDs. Didn't mean to boast. Hey, speaking of boasting: I now really want Benedict to play a knight on Merlin, just so we can all make Sir Boast-a-lot pics.

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't mind! I'm just teasing you ;) are there any extra-material on it?

Yes!! that would be epic!!

[fueschgast]

There's a making of thing (hopefully better than what was on the S1 DVDs) and commentaries for ep 1 & 2. Haven't watched it yet (had no time - spent today typing my 2nd Reichenbach review/theories post). Ha, no commentary on ep 3 - of course!

[ginevra17.livejournal.com]

I like the theory very much. I had noticed the truck parked there, and then leaving. I had thought about Mycroft's involvement in all this too. So basically I had half a theory XD

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

Considering how easy it would be for Sherlock to contact Mycroft beforehand, + the fact that Mycroft's monitoring of his brother is probably higher now with Moriarty's threats, Mycroft is most likely involved in it or will be helping him afterwards :)

[isilienelenihin.livejournal.com]

If we're going by the book (and as Moffat and Gatiss are both avowed Holmes fanatics) then yes, Mycroft was involved. And really, he'd have to be. Sherlock needs SOMEONE to help him set up the whole not-really-dead plot, and as a legally dead person, he wouldn't be able to travel or work or do much of anything without an alternate identity.

I totally yelled at the computer while I was watching it. I think that the plot went all the way back to Mycroft giving out Sherlock's life story. HE'S MYCROFT HOLMES, he's not gonna fall for some cheap trick! He's too impressive for that! (And seriously, Conan Doyle had even Sherlock admitting that Mycroft was the more intelligent and deductive person, but Sherlock is more creative and has more ambition).

I really don't want to wait a year to see John and Sherlock reunited. And I really hope that after John faints he gets back up and punches Sherlock in the face.

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

It's a very acute: Big Brother is watching. He knows everything and I think Sherlock knows how desperate his situation is, enough to call for help from his brother. I mean, he's at a point where he would willingly almost commit suicide - or make it look that way - for his friends, and he's not going to put them in danger by letting his pride get in the way of asking his brother for help.

I think the Mycroft telling Moriarty about Sherlock was a mix: I think the Holmes' brothers were way more ahead of Moriarty than the episode gives away, but I do also think that Mycroft screwed up in some way. As you said, he is the most clever of the three, only his priorites are different: in this case, it was the government over his brother. That being said, I do think he had taken more precautions for the possible consequenses of that. I just hope the show is going to touch on this, because we all know how Moffat loves writing his 'clever' characters stupid... (sorry. Not a Moff-fan xD)

It's been a week and it still hurts. It's like Doomsday and End of Time II I just can't rewatch, I keep pausing! The last scene with John and the gravestone breaks me every single time

[isilienelenihin.livejournal.com]

As in most things, I have mixed feelings about Moffat. I will always disagree with him about Rose (he hated her and she's my favorite companion), but I think that his episodes of Sherlock were brilliant, and I do like what he said about Sherlock and the Doctor:
"Sherlock Holmes is a man trying to be god. The Doctor is a god trying to be a man." I think it fits.

I love Mark Gatiss as Mycroft and I love how present he is in Sherlock. In the books there's a mention of him and a brief meeting, but not much else. Their feud is interesting because it helps to humanize them. The great and awesome Sherlock Holmes is petty enough to fall out with his brother--but I agree with you that he wouldn't let that stand in the way of saving the lives of his three friends (so glad Lestrade was in that group, by the way).

It was kind of nice to see Mycroft making a mistake (I totally yelled "You just killed your brother Mycroft Holmes!" when he told John what he'd done) but I still think that he's far too clever to totally fall on his face. Plus, did you see the inside of Moriarty's cell at the end of The Hounds of Baskerville? CREEPY STALKER MUCH?

Moriarty owns all of the buckets of crazy. Seriously.

Oh my gosh, when he asks Sherlock to please not be dead I seriously started crying. IT'S SO SAD. Hence why I think John needs to punch him in the face and then hug him for a few days!

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

Well, I disliked ASiB, but liked ASiP ;) otherwise, I really don't like his writing on Doctor Who, which I frankly think is awful at times. But yeah, he does better in this show.

I adore how much Mycroft is there as well! He's in every episode this season and it's making me squee in joy. Gatiss really brings him so much to life and I love their bickering, their snide-comments and the like.

Moriarty is totally in love with Sherlock ;D (in that, psychotic, 'you-make-me-not-bored' kind of way)

Muhahaha, the reunion I've written he does punch Sherlock. Hard. It was so satisfying to see on paper xD I was always upset in the ACD books when Watson wasn't more upset, but then again, it was a different time and the emotions were not as important as the plot: having five pages of Watson raving would maybe not have attracted an audience back then. Still! At least tell him what a dirtbag he is, and then hug him!

[thymelady.livejournal.com]

Excellent deduction there! And I'd forgotten about the hydrated rhododendron from the Richie film!

(There's a rhododendron reference in this episode too, is it ONLY a wink? See, my mind is going round and round after clues! Jewelry? Royalty? The dummy and the talk of the man that didn't commit suicide? The music? Sherlock being out of character by crying/actually making a phone call/throwing away his phone/making tea himself/trying to not being himself/other endless possibilities? Anything else?? What what what??? Augh, fandom is so bad for my brain!!)

[keep-counting.livejournal.com]

I think, more likely than not, the rhododendron does mean something. It would be very cool if it did, because it was such an off-hand comment that can be written off as a reference to the movie.

Yes, the non-suicide, I love how randomly that seems but its actually such a huge foreshadowing of what happens later. My brain is going crazy as well, especially after Moffat's: 'he did something out of character' comment. His trolling is starting to bother me a bit actually :/